Are you busy with a cluster feeding newborn? Whether you are trying to feed very often to increase milk supply, or you are feeding every hour because baby seems starving, this post will help you learn the different types of cluster feeds. I’ll show you how to make sure your infant takes full feeds and avoids snacking, and how to purposefully cluster feed to get longer sleep stretches. This will help you know what to do so you’re not up all night feeding a baby every hour.
Newborns are perfectly snuggly and sweet and warm and wonderful. It’s like you are focused on being so heavily pregnant and making it to birth and then… in an instant you have a tiny person that is so perfect.
And dependent on you.
But it can be hard to survive.
If they won’t sleep well, don’t seem to be eating well, and are irritable due to gas pain, overtiredness, or even baby teething… then you can feel like you’re slowly starting to lose your mind from lack of sleep and complete world upheaval.
It’s fairly easy to go with baby’s flow… until baby’s flow is constant eating, very little sleeping, and fussiness that makes mama stressed out.
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Common Phenomenon
There’s a common phenomenon with little ones… cluster feeding.
What is it?
Cluster feeding (n): A breastfeeding pattern when baby groups several feeding sessions in a short window of time. It can happen for a number of reasons (some purposeful, some not), which we’ll dive into below.
Some other names for this are topping up or tanking up (giving baby a bit more to make sure they aren’t hungry when they go to bed) or even split feeding.
Split feeding is used when you sort of divide up a feed into two so that baby gets what they need immediately, then some more again before going off into dreamland.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
How babies cluster feed – 4 likely scenarios:
- Baby cluster feeds at night, but not during the day.
- Baby cluster feeds both day and night.
- Or baby snacks all day but never takes full long feeds.
- Baby cluster feeds some time in the late afternoon/early evening period (5 pm to 11 pm) on purpose.
Rules of thumb while cluster feeding your newborn
Cluster feeding can really feel difficult or confusing, but I want to assure you that these newborns days are intense yet they will pass.
And the habits you start now can create a strong foundation then fade out naturally into a mutually beneficial routine.
Remember, during this time you may find your baby log comes in handy to refer back to. You certainly don’t need to keep track of anything, but organized mamas often feel comforted by this. Knowing that baby is getting enough milk and sleep throughout the day.
These lovely cards and checklists will help you create and keep healthy wind down and sleep routines for your little ones.
Learn MoreReasons cluster feeding works
So first of all, you’ll end up cluster feeding at some point in the day with your newborn.
Their tummies are tiny and they need to fill them up at regular intervals.
This is actually a good thing and you can use this feeding rhythm to your benefit in a way that means baby gets more sleep and you do too.
Read: End Baby’s Witching Hour — In 4 Simple Steps
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
Reasons Tanking Up Is Beneficial And Why Babies Do It:
- Your baby gets lots of nourishment in a shorter period of time which is beneficial during the late afternoon/early evening hours when, depending on your personal stress levels, milk quality may be lower.
- Baby can sleep longer stretches after cluster feeding periods.
- Mom can sleep longer stretches because baby is sleeping longer stretches.
- Milk supply can be kept up with regular feeding.
- Cluster feeds help babies get through growth spurts by maintaining adequate milk supply.
- Your baby is less likely to wake up early from a nap or night sleep due to hunger.
Read: Dreamfeed: The Why, The How, & When To Stop
Watch my video on an important cluster feeding issue.
Hourly feedings at night: day night confusion?
If your baby cluster feeds at night, but not during the day then sweet baby probably has some day night confusion going on.
The goal is to make those cluster feeds during daytime hours so they’re sleeping longer stretches at night.
If baby wants to nap for 4 hours during the day… well… don’t let him!
Follow my newborn sample routine or my week by week newborn schedule and do what works for you, but know that if you let baby sleep long stretches during the day he will be up more frequently at night.
Lots of lengthy daytime naps lowers baby’s sleep need. A baby only needs so much deep sleep in a 24 hour period and if he’s getting it during the day… he won’t at night.
Read: What To Do When Baby Is Feeding Every Hour (& Not Sleeping!)
Tried-and-true *hands on* newborn settling strategies that even the most fussy (or wide-awake-sleep-refusing) newborns cannot resist!
Learn MoreThe way forward?
Purposefully cluster feed your newborn in late afternoon and early evening and make sure baby is taking full feeds.
This means at least 10 minutes per breast if you’re nursing, often times twice that.
Read: Cocooning a Newborn & 7 Reasons Why it Can Be Good For The Family
PRO TIP
You can tell when baby is no longer actively nursing but just remaining latched on in a few ways.
- First, look at the muscles on baby’s cheek. If they are nursing it will be moving up and down. Next, discern whether baby is swallowing or not.
- Then, look at baby’s chin, is it moving as it does during active sucking (aka nursing).
If none of these are happening baby is likely asleep and engaging in non-nutritive sucking.
Read: How To Fix Day/Night Confusion In 3 Nights Or Less
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
How to stop cluster feeding at night (if you’re ready)
Whew.
Ain’t no mama want to be up every hour at night. The good news is you don’t have to be.
Even if you are feeding every hour through the night, you can shift that and begin getting longer stretches at night.
What’s the main way to stop cluster feeding at night?
Make sure baby is getting as much milk as they can throughout the day.
Don’t let baby snack while nursing. 10 minute feeds throughout the day mean baby will be up all night because baby is hungry and needs milk.
When you start giving baby full feeds throughout the day (this will mean you’ll have to do jump through some hoops to keep baby up) and baby settles into a predictable routine then they’ll sleep longer stretches at night.
Purposefully cluster feed in the late afternoon period when the milk supply is at its lowest quality (4 pm onwards) so that baby’s tummy is as full as it can be.
This will promote deeper sleep.
Eventually, even if baby wakes frequently at night for feeds, if you are not giving long full feeds throughout the night baby will get it.
It’s super hard when your newborn is cluster feeding all night, but you will get there and it will get easier!
Are you feeding your newborn both day and night?
If you have a cluster feeding newborn both day and night there are only a few likely alternatives.
- Milk supply is low and baby is starving.
- Baby is going through a growth spurt and is starving.
- Baby is only “snacking” and not taking full feeds or getting to the hindmilk rich in nutrients because he just takes a bit then stops.
The best way to help baby stop cluster feeding day and night is to determine which issue you’re having.
If it’s milk supply then continue feeding until your supply is up or supplement with formula (see a lactation expert).
Alternatively, if baby is going through a growth spurt then there’s nothing to do but wait it out and feed baby as much as possible to keep them full and get your supply up to meet the demand.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
What to do if baby only “snacks”
- Keep baby awake during feeds by taking off their clothes except diaper. You can also rub their feet, cheeks, or hands with a baby wipe or keep trying to stimulate them to stay awake long enough to feed. You can put them on a soft blanket or tummy time mat and let them kick in their diaper until they’ve woken up, then continue feeding.
- Try not to put baby down to sleep if they fall asleep while nursing unless they just won’t wake up. Keep trying to feed baby even if it takes a bit of time so they’ll get as much as they can.
- Differentiate between active nursing and non-nutritive sucking, and let baby do one but maybe not the other.
- Give the baby a pacifier (the pacifier I recommend that stays in baby’s mouth) if they wake and want to nurse right after having nursed a short time ago. They might just need to satisfy the sucking urge and this will help. Also, the next time they feed after this will mean they’ll take more milk and keep your supply up. “Snacking” can contribute to a lower milk supply because baby is never emptying a breast and getting the rich milk.
Eventually by doing those things baby will stop snacking and start taking fuller feeds which will naturally result in longer times between feeds.
Read: The Ultimate Newborn Sleep Schedule: Week By Week For The Postpartum Period
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
Cluster feeding in the early evening
The prime time to have newborn cluster feeding sessions is the late afternoon early evening.
As I previously said, the milk supply can be lower in quantity and quality at this time due to the stresses of the day.
Because of this, feeding baby every 2 hours for a few hours will help keep your supply up, will keep the little one happy, and will set them up to sleep longer stretches at night.
Your evening routine might look something like this.
4:30 p.m. Nurse and nap
6:30 p.m. Nurse and catnap (or skip nap)
8:30 p.m. Nurse and bed
10:30 p.m. Dreamfeed
By purposefully cluster feeding in the right time you’ll help everyone sleep more at night while keeping your precious one topped up on milk.
Common issues postpartum moms have with cluster feeding newborns
I’m going to touch on some majorly common issues moms experience in the early months. Dive in and get ready for some serious support.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
Frequent nursing demands from your newborn can wear a mama out
You love your newborn to pieces. You are going to make sure baby is nourished and safe. Of course, you want baby to be content. You also can admit that cluster feeding (particularly when baby is feeding every hour and not sleeping) can be demanding.
- You may feel like you’re in a constant nap trap.
- Or maybe your newborn only takes contact naps so you feel like your body is not your own.
- Perhaps baby won’t take a bottle or you aren’t expressing and so nobody else *can* help.
My best advice: if you want to go with the flow during this phase then you need to surrender. If you don’t want to go with the flow, then you can create your own newborn routine and go with that flow.
These lovely cards and checklists will help you create and keep healthy wind down and sleep routines for your little ones.
Learn MoreCluster feeding your newborn can lead to feelings of sleep deprivation
If you’re focusing on cluster feeding in the late afternoon early evening hours then this won’t affect your own sleep much. Unless you’re a late afternoon disco napper!
On the other hand, if you find yourself cluster feeding your newborn throughout the night then you are likely worn slam out. Tired like you were forced to do a HIIT workout with baby strapped on then couldn’t lie down and rest after.
The true fact is this: you must have sleep to function well.
Isolate when baby seems to be cluster feeding. If it’s during the night, then focus on giving your baby full feeds and not snacking. If baby wakes up an hour after a full feed, you know it’s not hunger. The you can comfort baby back to sleep.
It’s important you know how to settle a newborn to sleep without feeding. I go into that in my guide below.
Tried-and-true *hands on* newborn settling strategies that even the most fussy (or wide-awake-sleep-refusing) newborns cannot resist!
Learn MoreCluster feeding, as an instinct, can lead to confusion about baby’s cues
If you automatically shove baby on the breast at every whimper or gristle you’ll rob yourself of learning baby’s cues. A tired baby is comforted by sleep. A hungry baby is comforted by being fed.
It’s a mama’s job to learn to differentiate.
Before immediately offering milk to a baby who has been fed very recently, watch and observe. Attempt comfort in other ways. You want more comfort tols under your tool belt than simply feeding. This will ring true for many months to come.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
Frequent feedings can make it tough to care for older children
This is a very common refrain I hear from mamas. They are focused – of course – on making sure that their newborn is okay, but there are other children underfoot.
Toddlers and preschoolers will love baby as well, but there will be some tension if mom is always plopped on the couch feeding during their every waking hour.
- Focus on full feeds throughout most of the day to avoid nursing 24/7.
- Before sitting down to nurse, plan what your little ones may do near you.
- Don’t resort to screen time at each nursing session, particularly if you are nursing in clusters all day (this will be way too much screen time!)
Make sure you are feeling supported and not alone
The newborn period can feel super isolating. Many moms despair surviving it. To put it bluntly. One thing that can lead to these feelings is that everything feels pointless. Constant cluster feeding can contribute to a sense of helplessness and powerlessness.
Why go out? I’ll just need to feed in the line, at the table, in the car, etc.
Why go to church? Baby will just cry.
It is true that these early weeks and months require a lot of hands-on attention and focus. But even so, it’s important that you reach out and take advantage of support. If you are constantly nursing your baby and feel nobody else can do that for you, then get them to help with other things.
- Get a mother’s helper to help with chores.
- Let others watch baby while you shower or do self-care.
- Get out of the house even if it’s just to go outside!
- Don’t nurse fears or worries. Talk to someone who is an expert.
- Baby won’t sleep? Learn to settle without feeding. Anybody can do this (your mom, your MIL, the nanny, babysitter, or older sibling, etc.)
Tried-and-true *hands on* newborn settling strategies that even the most fussy (or wide-awake-sleep-refusing) newborns cannot resist!
Learn MoreSummary
- Feed every 1.5 to 2 hours during the early evening.
- Give baby plenty of milk before their bedtime so they are satisfied and sleep longer.
- Cluster feed during the DAY so you don’t find yourself having to cluster feed at NIGHT.
- Drop the cluster feeds when baby is no longer interested in one of the feeds.
Remember, feeding at frequent intervals in the late afternoon early evening will not solve actual sleep problems, but it will help your little one have a full tummy.
Sleep issues might subside if they were hunger related.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
These lovely cards and checklists will help you create and keep healthy wind down and sleep routines for your little ones.
Learn MoreNeed sample routines for babies 6 weeks and older?
By now, you know how to handle the early days, but what after? Here is the good news: you’ve set your baby up for a foundation of success.
Now all you need to do is continue to find routines that work for you and your baby as they grow up and begin getting bigger and bigger.
Sob.
After having 5 babies with 5 different personalities, I know a thing or two about finding a good schedule.
This is why I’ve created a book of sample routines and schedules for babies ages 6 weeks up to 5 years.
The book includes information on how long to let baby stay awake, how much play time is good for each age, what to do with baby when baby is awake but not quite mobile, and even how to manage toddler and baby joint routines.
Chapters covered in Rhythms, Routines & Schedules include:
Section One: Sample Schedules
- 6 Weeks to 3 Months Old
- 3-6 Months Old
- 7-9 Months Old
- 9-12 Months Old
- 12-18 Months Old
- 2-3 Years Old
- 4-5 Years Old
Section Two: Tips and Tricks
- Tips for Managing the Day With Multiple Children
- Daily Rhythms for an Only Child Ages 1-4 Years Old
- Daily Rhythms for Multiple Small Children Ages 0-5
- Sample Bedtime, Mealtime, and Playtime Routines
- Tips for Keeping Kids Busy Throughout the Day
For more sample routines, mom tested and approved schedules for babies ages 6 weeks and up, check out Rhythms, Routines & Schedules right now.
Cluster Feeding FAQ
Cluster feeding typically will happen until around 4 or 5 months of age. Once baby is around 5 months (see the 5 month old schedule here) and they are eating solids, there isn’t as much of a need for cluster feeding.
If your supply is low and baby is frequently feeding, this will increase your supply. Milk supply and quality is typically lower in the late afternoon early evening and cluster feeding can help fill baby.
Babies need to eat when they are hungry. Too much “snacking” can mean that baby is getting a lot of the foremilk which is less nutrient dense and will contribute to more feeding. Solution? Full feeds with hindmilk for baby.
Yes and no. Babies can tend to feed every hour all day long if they aren’t getting enough milk or they are snacking. If baby is feeding every hour all day long they’re not actually getting much food, they are using your breast as a snack bar. If you’re okay with this, then you’re good to go. And if not, focus on full feeds.
If babies take full feeds (nursing for 30 to 45 minutes typically) they won’t need food every half hour or even every two hours. If they snack they will feed more frequently.
Fast, simple, and free strategies to implement if baby can’t get to sleep, won’t stay asleep, or is unsettled in general.
Sources:
Tried-and-true *hands on* newborn settling strategies that even the most fussy (or wide-awake-sleep-refusing) newborns cannot resist!
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Stephanie T says
Hi! My only question is, with my 4 day old who is cluster feeding at all times right now, if he doesnt get to the hind milk, the nutrient milk, will it never come in? Im pumping after he eats each breast to continue the feeding process so my milk will come in full. Is that correct? Any tips.
Rachel Norman says
I’m sure it’s past this now, but yes you keep pumping and it’ll all come in!
Kelsey says
Hi Rachel,
I’m wondering about the late afternoon / early evening cluster feeding you recommend. My baby is 3 weeks old and feeds every 2.5 hours, including at night. Is it too early to try waking him to cluster feed to see if he will sleep for longer stretches at night? Also, when do you recommend stopping these afternoon / evening cluster feeds? Thanks so much for all of the advice and resources!
Dina S. says
Yes, I would also like to know, for how many evenings do I cluster feed 0 is it just a temporary thing or do I cluster feed for months?
Also, full feedings are great, but am I the only one one who gets thrown off by extra diaper changes, burping the baby and unexpected changing of his clothes due to leakage, burping or smth else, that can interfere with that window of wakefulness?
Kathryn Ellis says
We’re struggling with that too. After extra time sitting upright to help manage reflux, plus nappy / clothes change etc he’s getting too tired to settle back to sleep. He then seems to want to feed more and we get stuck in this cycle. Any advice?
Rachel Norman says
I answered this in the bottom of the post, Dina! I updated it. Essentially you’ll want to cluster feed until he doesn’t really want one of those feeds, then you can drop it!
Bailey says
My son ate every 3 hours on the dot until about 6 weeks old. He had a routine of 6am feeding, 9ish am feeding, 12pm feeding, 3:30pm feeding, 6:30pm feeding, 10pm feeding, 12pm feeding and so on every 3ish hours. As he started to get older and taking more food (3.5-5oz areas) he began to sleep longer at night all on his own. As long as you help your baby understand night and day your baby should adapt on their own. Things I did to help him understand day and night:
Day: windows cracked open, tv always on for noise- especially if no one else is home, talk to him while feeding, walk around and show him things and tell him what things are, go around a short walk around the block, only swaddling with a light blanket or laying him down to sleep in a sleeper, keeping lights on.
Night time: Velcro swaddler, dark, minimal-low noise (I leave a fan on the lowest setting for a white noise), always laying him down in the bassinet so it’s a consistent memory thing where he sleeps at night.
Naps during the day are totally okay. Especially that young! They literally: eat sleep potty. :) Help baby know night and day and they should get it on their own! Good luck xoxo.
Rachel Norman says
Thanks for sharing all you did, Bailey, I love seeing what other moms do :)
Dana says
I’ve read you’re not supposed to wake new borns or keep them awake because it actually makes it harder for them to sleep at night. I’ve actually experienced this first hand after a long day of being passed around from one person to the next- baby girl was kept awake. The following night she was SCREAMING and terribly fussy/wanting to be on my breast constantly. She slept terrible and so did I. I’d never seen her like that. I think it’s terrible advice to not let a newborn sleep during the day. They need sleep for brain development…
What doctors and friends told me is that you are to let them nap but keep it somewhat noisy and bright so they don’t get a “deep sleep”. New borns need to eat when they are hungry and sleep when they are tired. You’re not supposed to sleep train until about 6 minths
Rachel Norman says
Dana, waking a baby up after they’ve slept a couple hours to feed them is okay. Keeping a baby awake will make them overtired, surely! I definitely don’t say to keep a baby awake on this here blog, ha, I say the opposite! However, letting baby sleep long stretches during the day 3+ hours at a time will often mean they are up at night. Is that what I said?
Alyssa says
Hi there, I have a very hungry baby who is just turned 2 weeks of age. And I seem to be feeding much more during the late afternoon evening periods. This can start anywhere from 4pm to 10-11pm. Do you have any advice on how to satisfy my hungry baby. Sometimes I feel she isn’t getting enough with the amount of feeds she’s having.
Rachel Norman says
I edited the post to answer this question!
Casey says
You should really change that photo of the woman and newborn. It is common instruction to have the babies head aligned with his body. That baby is in a very bad position! We are often told to imagine drinking a glass a water with your head turned sideways. Not easy.
Rachel Norman says
Oh, thanks for catching that. I may change it later when I get a minute!
Marissa says
Hi. I have a 6 day old baby and she will not sleep more than an hour day or night unless she is held. I want to try the scheduling but she’s literally up every 20-30 minutes and I don’t know where to start. IM so tired and overwhelmed and don’t know how to get to sleep! I’m sure she is exhausted….
Rachel Norman says
Will she take a full feed or is she falling asleep while feeding all the time, Marissa?
Brittany says
I’m having the same issues with my daughter she is almost 2 months old and she eats so often During the and up until about midnight the she finally sleeps for about 4-5 hours…sometimes I feel like I’m attached to a baby all day long..she falls to sleep most every time while nursing and only nurses for maybe 10-15 minutes on a good day…
Rachel Norman says
It is a super draining time if you can’t get any space. I get that. It can take a real intervention to get things changing, but you can! This free opt in may help. https://amotherfarfromhome.com/amffh_optin/babies-need-r-e-s-t/
Anya says
My six week old baby girl feeds non stop from 5pm – 10.30pm every night. I then give her 40 ml formula and she sleeps til 4 or 5am, then feed, straight back to sleep, up at 8am ish. Daytime she is easy – 3 hourly feeds, sleeps, hangs out. What can I do about the evening cluster feeding? It has been every night for 3 weeks now and it makes life for the family (I have two other kids) incredibly difficult.
Rachel Norman says
Hi Anya, so she falls asleep and won’t take it or she literally ahs one bottle after the other that whole time?
Jimena says
My 4 week old feeds and naps every 2-3 hours during the day and in general is calm baby, but for for the past week and a half or so she’s been cluster feeding from around 11 pm to 4-5 am (we are going kind of crazy here!! She’s even started at 9 pm!!). We’ve even tried a 3.5 oz bottle of expressed milk at around 3 only to have her eat a full half an hour as a “top off” afterwards. She would have 3-4 hour stretches of sleep between 5(ish) and 11(ish) am. What can we do to move that cluster to the afternoon?? Sometimes I think it is just the anxiety and overtiredness that makes her want to stay sucking at the breast, rather than hunger, but I don’t know. Also, she really hates the pacifier. HELP!!!
Rachel Norman says
IF she’s super hard to wake during the day and napping fine all day but then waking all night, could be day night reversal, search that on here I have a post on it :)
Tiffany Townsend says
We’ve tried to dream feed our 8-wk old sometime btwn 10pm and 12am to get him to sleep longer, but we wakes up around 230am-330am no matter what. When you cluster feed in the early evening, how are you measuring out how much to feed? Are you feeding smaller feeds throughout the day?
Rachel Norman says
Tiffany, great question :) If you are nursing then you just try to feed full feeds if able because the milk quality is lower. If you are bottle feeding then put in a full amount and see how it goes. I do NOT recommend feeding less during the day an you don’t want to stuff baby. You simply want to be sure baby is getting enough milk while AWAKE during the daytime and NOT at night. And making sure baby is getting enough high quality milk before bedtime. Your 8 week old will still need a couple of night feeds since he’s so small :)
heather J sullivan says
This was so helpful, but after reading, I feel disheartened. My new I RN is 3 weeks old today and I feel so run down. He eats every 2 hours during the day and (with the exception of a few nights) he is up every hour feeding. I feel like I don’t know where to start.
Rachel Norman says
Heather, it’s SO HARD. You are ready to STOP feeding so often. The good news is that you can feed 3 hourly (I am an infant and sleep consultant and most babies are able to go 3 hours if they have a full feed) during the day and then ONLY cluster feed in the late afternoons or early evenings. And, the reason to do that is EXACTLY SO you can sleep more in those early hours.
Angela says
I have a 6 week old with acid reflux. I try to feed him a lot during the day (usually about every 2 hours at least 20-30 minutes). At night I give him much smaller feeds (7-12 minutes) since he usually spits up quite a bit again so I try to keep the feeds smaller. I hold him up after every feed for 20-30 minutes, but will always spit up a lot. He sleeps for a 3-4 hour stretch at around 8 or 9 on, but wakes up every 1.5-2 hours after. Any advice on helping him sleep longer with this reflux issue?
Rachel Norman says
Reflux is tricky isn’t it, what does your doctor recommend? There are schools of thought that say longer times between feeding means less stress on the stomach and less acids going up, but I’d check with your doc!
Angela says
His doctor says to just hold him upright, keep feeding and he will grow out of it eventually (it took my older son almost 1 full year!). I have been feeding him on demand, I’m worried if I prolong the feeding he will be hungrier and gulp in more air.
Rachel Norman says
Angela if you feel he is doing well enough this way then keep it up! If you feel he is uncomfortable you’ve got nothing to lose but extended feeds slightly and seeing how he goes :)
Rebecca says
I feel like my baby has witching hours from 4-7 an then usually sleeps a long stretch till 10-11 pm. This makes setting up a night time routine very difficult. I would love some tips how to overcome this. Will def try clusterfeedjng her during this time.. should I try do the routine at 10 o clock for now until she is out of the witching period?
Rachel Norman says
If she has wiching hour until around 7 then I’d make 7 pm hard bedtime and go from there, feeding at night when necessary!
NosleepMum says
My som will be 8 weeks om Thursday 30th Dec. He has silent reflux and we are on Gaviscon.
Unfortunatley due to this he needsnto be held up long after feeds and falls asleep naturally especially at night. Meaning us patting his back to burp and holding him is a sleep prop.
How do I get out of this???!!!
We dont have any time for ourselves. I follow his cue for feeds and sleep which usually is Awake – Feed – Play – Sleep all within 60-70mins. I watch him carefully for sleep cues and hunger cues and in the day it works wrll but I have to hols him upright and end up rocking and walking him to sleep. He normally sleeps 1 full hpur once put down so in total the whole process from awake to awake the next session is 2-2.5 hours. This is exhausting as I find I am co fined to this routine everyday without improvement. I exclusively breast feed and make sure to follow all the tips for reflux babies.
We started a night routine 9 days ago and he still wakes up every 45mins- 60mins for a feed and cuddles. We batge him every 3 days so start that at 7-7:30pm. Do a massage – I feed him (change him as he poops rights after a Feed) all in a good environment and then shh and pat his back. After he nods off I place him in his moses basket and if I am lucky (happened twice) he will sleep 2 hours otherwise it will be 45mins-60mins. 50% of the time he wakes screaming. Sometimes I can tell ita due to reflux and sometimes I question if he just wants to be picked up.
At 8 weeks old Can I do the CIO method especially with the reflux. What else can I do to get him to self soothe? And sleep more then an hour. I am shattered and it’s not working for me.
I keep praying tonight is the night he will do a 3 hours stretch and then have a feed and do another 3-4 hour stretch. I’m desperate for a good nights sleep. I can’t sleep in the day as his naps are an hour and when he is awake I am his only care giver and I breast Feed him so I supervise and comfort and feed him. So I am really relying on night to be able to sleep. I just need a good solid 4 hours that’s all I am asking for. 😭
We have 0 family or friends near by. They all live 4+ hours away and with COVID restrictions we don’t have visitors. I’m at a loss of what to do.
I see so many Mamas say thwir babies at 8 weeks sleep 4-5-6 hours straight and I truely envy them it makes me feel so depressed.
Marrisa Axelrod says
Thank you so much for your post. I have a 4 1/2 week old and I’m feeding multiple donors Breast Milk with an SNS on my breast and also bottlefeeding due to a prior mastectomy. Since day one he has been on his schedule and eats every three hours. He currently is at 120 ML‘s per feed. Since incorporating a bottle he has been more gassy which is unfortunate and some feed schedules are a little bit closer together because he’s so upset. But besides that how can I possibly get a longer sleep cycle at night? Would you recommend feeding every two hours prior to bed? He’s already getting so much at each feed. I’m at a loss and I’m exhausted. Thank you!
Rachel Norman says
Marrisa, I have had a mastectomy myself – sending hugs, friend – You could even do a 2.5 daily schedule throughout the day in these early weeks and see how he goes. He will be up every few hours at night for a while, so the key is to make sure he’s having longer spaces in the night than in the day.
Ashleigh Osborne-Williamson says
Hi my baby is now 4 weeks old and still feeding every hour day and night and completely emptying my breasts .. I keep to one breast per feed .. this is my 4th my 3rd I couldn’t breast feed he was early and couldn’t suck he was also hourly feeds on formula .. my other 2 were 3 hourly but even then I had to much milk for my first and not enough for my second.. now feeling I don’t have enough for this one he is draining my boobs he has a suck then I get the let down which is a fast one he’s always moaned about and chocked at and then not long after I feel empty nd he is still sucking a tugging and I don’t feel nothing is coming out and he starts gettin fed up with it and moans and tugs it around .. he has fed the same since birth he didnt latch very well at first so I got very saw and engorged untill it sorted out .. think I may have to give up and go on to formula ..
Rachel Norman says
Or you could TEST the formula and see if it helps first!
Dov Golan says
Hello, i have a 6 weeks old baby, he eats formula now almost exclusively, since my wife couldnt breast feed directly and he was bottle fed since birth (my wife used a breast pump).
At the evenings he constantly wants to eat, and wont stop, sometimes it takes hours until he falls back to sleep… he can get up to 300 ml… easy!
We try to regulate his eating at this time so he wont eat to much too fast, but he is constantly crying if not fed. He’s a healthy baby and is gaining weight, doing his #1 and #2’s.
were first time parents and we dont know what to do
Holly says
Hi Rachel,
My newborn is only a week old and this is my second I know schedules will change and he is just getting used to being on the outside but currently he is cluster feeding in the wee hours of the night usually between 2am-5am.
Is there a method where I can change that so he cluster feeds more in the evening? Because he will in the morning then sleep for over 4hrs so if I can just get him cluster feeding in the evening, I can start moving him into a better nighttime routine.
Thank you!!
Maria says
Hi!
My baby is 6 w old and is breast fed and formula fed. He is waking up for incomplete meals overnight. He eats for 5-10 min and then falls back to sleep. He wakes up 1-2 h later after these snacks. How do you break that routine? Should I try to keep him awake during night feeds as you recommend during the day?
The longest stretch he would sleep is 3 h after formula.
Baby is also insatiable during early evening and stays in the breast consistently and doesn’t seem satisfied. Would you consider that cluster feeding or just lack of mild supple?